The Build Good Fundraising Podcast

#112: How to evolve your fundraising offer and positioning as your organization scales, with Phil Calvert

September 10th, 2025
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Imagine building a huge organization on the back of “$5.38 buys a meal for a neighbour experiencing homelessness”, when a meal is just the doorway, not the destination.

It’s a situation many nonprofits find themselves in. Their programming has changed and evolved, but their core value proposition and fundraising offers haven’t—because they are tried, trued, tested and proven.

In today’s episode, The Mustard Seed’s Philip Calvert sits down with Mike to pull back the curtain on what happens when an inner city ministry grows into a multi-city, $73m engine for life change—housing, mental health supports, job training and more—while many donors still picture soup lines at Christmas.

With 38,000 active donors and a strong brand, Phil and his team are facing a choice: keep raising money on meals… or reframe the offer around real outcomes. Last year alone, 1,300 people graduated from their shelter to affordable housing—effectively exiting homelessness. That’s the story. Now how do you scale it?

In this episode you’ll learn:

  • Why meal-based offers work—and when they start to trap your brand.
  • How to test new impact messages (like shelter-to-housing “graduations”) without tanking revenue.
  • Ways to align fundraising, programs, and ops so donors fund what actually drives change.
  • A simple 3-step path to review metrics, pilot new offers, and roll out a refreshed public story.

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